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STA is also used in the British Army. This article needs to be expanded to include the British meaning as it is linked from articles about British Army units. Yorkshire Phoenix 08:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If no-one raises any objections I'm going to move this page to STA sniper and create a disambiguation page at this location (Surveillance and Target Acquisition) with links to STA sniper, 5 Regiment Royal Artillery, The Honourable Artillery Company and 101 (Northumbrian) Regiment Royal Artillery (Volunteers). Yorkshire Phoenix (talk • contribs) 10:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see there's another very similar page, this time as it relates to the US Army at Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Target Acquisition. You might want to include this in your dab page (or merge effort). Speaking of which, I would vote for a merge into one page since they are all simply examples or different implementations of the same military concept. One heading could be "Examples" and then list the 3 variations (US Marine, US Army, British Army). Deon Steyn 10:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may be a few years late to this discussion, but have only just begun to examine the Wiki entries for my community. I am a US Marine Scout Sniper. Our community of Scout Snipers is separate and distinct from that of any other US branch of service, and certainly from the military service of any other country. While there may be similarities in the name, mission and capabilities between your British STA unit, it is not the same and certainly should not be lumped into an article that is devoted to US Marine Corps Scout Snipers. USMC Scout Snipers are not derived or descended from the British units either. There is no historical or operational relationship between the two units. Just wanted to ensure that information is here for the record. Also for the record, as a matter of personal interest, I would love to see an article devoted to the British STA unit (I’m certain they deserve one of their own) so as to learn more about our cousins across the pond! USMC Scout Sniper Association (talk) 17:12, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

This discussion, pertaining to the merging the articles of Scout Sniper and Scout Sniper Platoon, was prescribed from users' talk pages, please consult further issues within the scope of this talk page only.

I've noticed that there are a number of articles regarding snipers in the Corps. I was wondering what you thought about consolidating [at least some] of these:

Unless there was a major change, I believe that the latter two are just different names for the same thing. Further, does the fact that each rifle battalion has one platoon mean that the platoon merits an article, or can we cover the sniper unit in the Scout Sniper article? I realize that the Scout & Sniper Company was a bit different (it had vehicles), and has much more of a historally relevant slant to it, but maybe it too could be merged under the "history" section. bahamut0013^words _deeds 05:40, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes..very confusing [to readers]! I'll elaborate much I can...tell me what you come up with and I'll send suggestions if you'd like. The STA and Scout Sniper Platoons are indeed separate platoons and assets...but they both originated from the same school. Similar trade in skills, but the commanders use these separately for different missions, accordingly. And not sure why there are 'two' articles about Marine snipers....the Scout Sniper and Scout Sniper Platoon? Two different articles incorporating information about the same exact unit.
RekonDog (talk) 01:00, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So if I read you right, it seems that Scout Sniper Platoon can be merged into Scout Sniper? bahamut0013^words _deeds 08:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...Scout Sniper Platoon should be merged into Scout Sniper. And, the Scout Sniper School is a school that the STA Platoon also share, alongside with the Scout Sniper Platoon. I was wondering if it should be a separate article or not?
RekonDog (talk) 00:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say yes, but you're the duty expert. ...Given the overlap, and the fact that the creating editors were probably unaware of the overlap into other articles, I don't think it would be too controversial to execute without a discussion. bahamut0013^words _deeds 12:15, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think that the title of the merged article should also read "United States Marine Corps Scout Sniper".
RekonDog (talk) 01:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense to me! That way, the article can cover all aspects of the concept. In fact, regardless of whether there is consensus to merge or not, I think the page should be moved. bahamut0013^words _deeds 10:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This whole article is written in a nonencyclopedic and careless way

This whole article is written in a nonencyclopedic and careless way. Among many other flaws in it, phrases like "scout sniper" are common nouns and they are not capitalized. Furthermore, just because the abbreviations of things are capitalized does not mean that when they are spelled out, they are capitalized or become proper nouns. Examples:
AA or A/A mean "antiaircraft" and AAA means "antiaircraft artillery". WP means "white phosphorus". ASW means "antisubmarine warfare". APC means "armored personnel carrier". CV is a navy abbreviation for aircraft carrier. GPS means "global positioning system". ARM means "antiradiation missile". GLCM = "ground-launched cruise missile". AP means "armor-piercing" or "antipersonnel". SAR means "search and rescue". ASROC = "antisubmarine rocket".98.67.110.201 (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While you’re right, the article is written in a rather non-encyclopedic way, the example you chose to demonstrate that is inaccurate. The words Scout and sniper are indeed common nouns. But, in the context of serving as a US Marine Scout Sniper, it is a title, and one we’re very proud of. Titles are commonly capitalized. For example, the word “marine” is a common noun as well, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a Marine who doesn’t capitalize it when discussing one who has earned the title. Even the auto-correct on my phone tried to capitalize it as I wrote this! You are correct, in that there are much more substantial issues with this article, and I will do my best to address them soon. USMC Scout Sniper Association (talk) 17:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RE: "One Shot, One Kill"

I don't know how long "one shot, one kill" has been the motto of the USMC Scout Snipers, but it was one of the motivational slogans used by my U.S. Army drill sergeants during basic training in 1996. Maybe my drill sergeants copped it from the Corps, maybe not. Just something to look in to. JRodriguez1974 (talk) 19:10, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The slogan is not unique to the Marine Corps, but it is definitely one that US Marine Scout Snipers, and indeed the whole Marine Corps, has adopted for their own. I know Marine Scout Snipers had that slogan on unit signs posted near their command posts in combat during Vietnam. So, use by Marine Scout Snipers goes back at least to the 1960’s. USMC Scout Sniper Association (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs a "History" section

In my humble opinion, this article needs a "History" section, though I'm not the one to write it. —DocWatson42 (talk) 09:47, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see that a sort of history has been added, but it is extremely abbreviated and leaves out whole chunks of our history. The USMC Scout Sniper Association will be working to correct that in the coming months. USMC Scout Sniper Association (talk) 17:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merle Dixon from THE WALKING DEAD a Scout Sniper?

Where was it said that the character Merle Dixon was a scout sniper? Sure, it was displayed in several episodes that Merle is a sniper, but that he has a association with the Scout Snipers wasn't mentioned anywhere. Could it be that this is a theory because his bike has the SS-emblem in the TV show? --Exodianecross (talk) 13:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]